Its just that with hundreds of millions of firearms in the hands of more than one-third of the countrys population including a lot of cops some number of negligent discharges will inevitably happen. This website has been messed up all week so that might be the problem in replying. It was the same sort of progressively worsening extraction issues you describe. In this article, you will find the fix to these problems. He points to it in the video. Much has been made of Nimoys Spock being the most popular character in TOS, but Id argue that without Shatners over-the-top swagger and brash manner, the balance would be lost. Police officers do NOT get a lot of training unless theyre doing it on their own time at their own expense. Not sure why it wont let me reply to you, but Ill reply to myself in the hope youll get it. The federal government intends to order up to 20,000 pistols for the military to replace its Second World War-era Browning Hi-Power handguns in a project that could be worth up to $50 million. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Display as a link instead, Sigs suck and my Glock is awesome!. It was not a double charge, but it did blow out the extractor. Yeah, I guess I learned that the hard way. Bravo. After many years of testing, we've developed a replacement part that . Yes, even lightly polished the top and bottom to prevent binding. New extractor? June 20, 2017 in Sig. I continue to bet my life on them. That being the case, the 320 is a cocked and locked striker-fired gun; However, it only has two safeties, unlike, say, a 1911, which has four: An inertial firing pin, a positive firing-pin locking safety, a manual sear-locking/blocking safety, and a trigger-bar-blocking grip safety. It alleges that Walter Collette, Jr., a police officer with the Somerville (Mass.) The gun has been running flawlessly with mixed brass with 165gn plated, 158gn 38/.357, and 147 factory since. Time will tell if no. Dude, your story is THREE years old. With the redesign, you would have to implement a LOT of force to move the trigger backwards. Yea, I already have the RA and the Fedex shipping label. This summer, the gunmaker prevailed in a suit involving a Hillsborough man who claimed his P320 discharged without a trigger pull. Theres still the P938 extractors snapping they refuse to acknowledge. Had it for 1 hour and had to send it back to Sig! You said you don't have the problem with any of your other kits. The moral of all of this is the reason Sig got the military contract was because they were selling guns at close to cost, they underbid Glock by a significant margin. The fact is that the plaintiffs will get paid regardless of who did what. It was one of the first ones and was sent back as a voluntary upgrade. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And precision swagged 125gr in .358. There are a few examples, I admitS&Ws M&P from around 2014 were near junk and I wouldnt have bothered to own one as a trotline weight, but apparently S&W had righted that ship since then. You did get to sit and watch it with him, which leads to a serious question. ! only reveals ones immature emotional attachment to an inanimate object, which reveals a pretty childish worldview. So does any of this mean theres something wrong with the P320? I have 2 FCUs and 4 caliber kits. A fellow kept his DA revolver in the desk. Not sure if the FTE is related to the feeding problems people see with certain ammo, but check out this link, it MAY be what you need to see. Hey yall! But it also has much worse quality control on the parts in my experience owning and working on both. Holding the striker fully cocked with nothing to block it if the sear fails is questionable at best. They function as commanded every time. I have read on forums where the factory swapped the extractor and made another change to add more tension on it. So I give a ton of credit to Shatner for reading the reality of what it was and in essence, saving it. rpm8300 https://millsentertainment.smugmug.com/William-Shatner-The-Wrath-of-Khan The truth is the absolute WORST semi-autos that Sig, H&K, Walther, Beretta or Glock makes today are more reliable than the best semi-autos made 40 years ago, by far. The baseline P320 has endured some problems. Upload or insert images from URL. First off, no joke on me. Tomac. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Sent the old kit (as a complete pistol) off to Sig for warranty repair. JAFO- Yes, tried both FCUs with this kit. Where is that defect now? Still thinking. You're never supposed to admit to shooting reloaded ammo when contacting customer service! RAYZ-When I LAMR I load a full mag (11 rounds in a factory 17 or 21 round mag) then cycle the slide. Hilton's $15 million lawsuit said, "there have been 54 reported uncommanded discharges of the P320," meaning the gun went off by itself, over the last five years in 22 states and Washington, D.C. Sig Sauer did not respond to ABC News' request for comment. I've been using 120 bayou .358 dia. Folks disagree on brands. The weapon was out of battery when it fired.. P365 / P365XL Striker Kit This is a factory Sig Sauer striker kit $57.39. It was a huge issue at one point because the company who they outsourced the extractor to went cheap. The new Kirk does suck. Still, it's incumbent on us to follow up our reviews with some of the reported problems and legal actions affecting the P320. Upload or insert images from URL. Maybe its a technical issue, maybe its a training issue. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. 3. They are being replaced with Glocks. They received it on 1/10/2018. If you want to find the lowest form of life on the planet interview any C.E.O. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. He spent nearly a decade in the non-profit world, working with international development agencies and anti-poverty groups. That being said this is one gun that no one "if they do use as a carry gun" should not carry with a round in the chamber. Make a gift to NHPR today for your chance to win a trip for 2 to Ireland! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. . And I have a separate channel for mall ninja training tips. Sometimes it would do the same as the above but it was under the extractor like it should be. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 1300324. First I have no problem with the Mk 25 or any other Sig thats metal. Especially since they farm it out to the lowest bidder. I own Serpa holsters in multiple configurations (1911, Beretta 96, H&K, Springfield, etc) for most of the time theyve been around and I NEVER had an ND. Both companies, instead, took to pro-gun industry forums to offer a rebuttal, giving no opportunity to answer questions. Anyway my question for $600 would be: Did you have your 3rd wife killed? I used to laugh at his bragging about how skilled he was with a weapon.. Its not credible to claim that people with this amount of training, this amount of skill are all shooting themselves.. Big public relations disaster and Sig tries a second time to get the piece of shit to work and not go off when dropped. SIG P320s were just the start and the P365 isnt far behind. Jan 2019. Customer Service can be reached at (603)610-3000 Option 1, from Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. EST. Two, the plunger may have a propensity to remain partially raised, or staged, instead of returning fully to its secure position, lessening the energy necessary to move it and thus allowing less effort to do so. I'm not sure how long it is really going to take. Charlton, headquartered in Victoria, B.C., for comment on its original story, but neither responded. I call b-s on all these my gun magically went off. That said, I own multiple P320s, but all of them have the manual safety due to personal preference. The military has found that the pistol has a tendency to eject live rounds among other issues. Limp wristing? But hey, in ruthless, lawless, Capitalvania were life is considered cheap and expendable no one gives a shit, especially the Far Right that screams about abortions and then kills off the children that were not aborted with loaded guns laying around the house. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. SIG is choosing to litigate their problems away. He takes your wallet and car and leaves the SIG. I have almost a hatred for Glocks but the one thing that they are is reliable. More testing is needed to be 100 percent sure but looks good so far. At the risk of sounding superstitious lets review Sigs latest turd pistol. That prompted Sig Sauer to issue what it. Second, your claim that the military is dumping because theyre problematic? If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. Sig actually states to never use steel casing ammo. P320C .45. SIG Sauer, a German weapons maker with its U.S. headquarters in Newington, N.H., issued a statement Friday in response to a CBC News report earlier this week that revealed the Nov. 5, 2020, incident and the fact the weapon, the SIG P320, had been withdrawn from service while the military conducts an investigation. Over pressure, and poor case support, just a thought. Police Department, was wounded when his P320 duty gun discharged without a trigger pull while he was carrying it in a gym bag wrapped carefully with a cloth. Officer Collette was wounded in his left leg. No problems since. They then proceeded to repeatedly drop each one onto concrete at that precise -30 problem angle from four feet. The P320 9mm compact was known to have issues with failure to extract. Took the wife out to SC yesterday after changing out to the 1911 guide rod with a 12lb spring. I have several thousand of this ammo on hand, and if I were to need to use to defend myself or my family, the gun should handle it. They mandate more discharges, with more property damage, more injuries, and more deaths. How about something more relevant. Then after just three years without telling anyone they stopped all production including extra parts. 2. These lawsuits ARE about SIG making defective weapons. When Villani was asked for his opinion of SIG Sauer, he said, I carry SIGs, I own SIGs, I just dont own a 320nor would I ever. When Scott asked Villani what he found when he took a P320 apart, he said, I thought Wow, they need to do their homework, they need to fix this gun.. In 1974 if you bought a Colt 1911, you left the gun store and then immediately took it to your favorite gunsmith and said Make it work it with Super-Vels, please. You cant get away with that today. The cheap seats were $100-$200 and you got to watch Wrath of Khan with Shatner. Heres the version that ran Tuesday morning during the networks Good Morning America program . I call Sig hoping to send it in for repairs, they told me to try different ammo. Glock is being sued too, because once loaded and a round is chambered, it also has a much lighter trigger than a DA/SA. They did, however, note that when they were contacted by ABC, the company pointed out specific circumstances that were subsequently uncovered in the investigations of a number of these incidents. And those are exactly the kinds of plaintiffs who happen to make up the vast majority of the lawsuits filed against SIG. They have similar vertical sear engagement, but the M&P has more engagement width wise. Maybe you got one by the same people. Sound familiar? . As for Seals they have their own contract with Glock but can carry anything they want. Grow up, you aint all that! Tyler Freel Nuts and Bolts of the Sig-Sauer P320 XTen. Had a buddy, years ago, that was a deputy for Orange County in California. I carry one in my front pocket routinely. As for the Serpa holster, this is a bunch of internet echo chamber BS that originated with Obama-era federal agencies putting a bad light on a good product in order to sway public opinion and thus damage the manufacturers bottom line. Picard if Im limited to NCC-1701. Then when the gun still wouldnt operate right, field stripped it and cleared the debris, but didnt understand the gun enough to realize it was now super broken. Now it runs anything and no further problems. Ron Cohen ruined Kimber and now hes doing the same to SIG. This pistol had about 700 rounds through it at the time of the FTE, all factory Speer Lawman 147g TMJ and Federal HST 147g JHP. The pistol is popular with commercial gun owners and law enforcement south of the border. Took it home, cleaned it, and went straight back to the range. Everyone knows Glocks are the absolute pinnacle of perfection and have never had one single defect ever! Theyre cheering for a noose around their own precious Glocks throat. The thing I hate is getting kicked around! Will this issue get better or should I be contacting Sig? Thats why the US Marines have Sigs. When I got it back it was ammo fussy for about 600 rounds. Both FCUs work with all of the other kits / calibers. It somehow moved to the hinges of the desk. Anyway there was one good thing to come from those movies, The USS Vengeance. The thing is, youd probably need to generate many Gs of force in both directions simultaneously. P320 Extractor Design Change. You arent a gunfighter, either. Really? Asked if the guns in these cases could have been mishandled, Villani responds, When I see videos of police officers getting out of their car and their weapon discharges in their holsters, nah, theres a problem with the gun. ABC then ran bodycam footage of a pre-upgrade P320 firing as a Michigan state trooper exited his patrol car in 2016 with no mention of the results of any subsequent investigation. I am still waiting for the UPS man (not from the devil but from Sig) I will not hold my breath. Quit blaming cops or the military, these guns have a serious problem. And it doesnt take too much Googling to find plenty of reports of LEOs suing the Georgia company as well (see here, here, here, and here for just a few). Send it back to Sig? Still having the same exact Type 3 Malfs every other round. 3) If the sear fails, there is the drop safety in the way of the striker. Because of this a case that is weakened has the room to fail whereas the same case in a supported chamber most likely would have survived. I called Sig and the rep said the X5 is designed to do exactly that, blow out the extractor to save other vital parts,whenever there is an over pressure situation. It's bad enoughso much case is hanging out beyond the chamber face to headspace just below flush with the hood. This is this same company that couldnt build their own freaking rifles after multiple attempts (Sig SG550 series) when that rifle had been made in Switzerland for years without issue. So even if, as the ambulance chaser claims, the striker leg could vibrate off of the sear face, it could not discharge unless the drop safety was also disengaged because the drop safety prevents movement of the striker sufficient to make the firing pin protrude from the breech face. The incidents occur outside the forbidden zone, as we disarm before we enter so we stay in assiduous compliance with their nonsensical requirement. Whats this silly BS? and youve gotten this far reading our thread. The second version emphasized the upgrade to fix the drop safety issue and notes that Harrison believes that problem has been fixed. Sigs bid was low because they were still pissed after being beat by Beretta in cost. While this incident occurred months ago, this erroneous media report is driven by multiple sources, including our competitors, and coincides with the imminent release of other Canadian military and law enforcement tenders, indicating the timing of its release is an attempt to improperly influence the procurements, the statement said. The clearest memory I have about the many people experiencing post-upgrade discharges is a cop who set his P320 on a table, and several seconds after letting go, IT DISCHARGED ON ITS OWN! Withe the P320 Sigs contract was $169.5 million, $103 million cheaper then Glock. Feed ramp was polished from use when it went out but looked freshly blued when it came back. Got mine about 8 months ago. Service your Sig P320 pistol with quality OEM and aftermarket parts/components to ensure a solid performance . Circumstances that explained those un-commanded discharges.. Then shoot. I don't shoot it often but yesterday had fte problems intermittently. Yes, swapped with my 9mm compact. If it fails, you're kind of screwed. All polymer guns are cheap, cheap, cheap to make, thats why I threw the Taurus name into the mix. That was me. Which in and of itself is user error / misuse. Update: 6/30/16 Ordered a new Caliber X-change kit 9F about 4 weeks ago and have been using the new kit for the last 4 matches. Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge. The gun ran better then it has but instead of stove pipes out of about 120 rounds she had about 4-6 fte but with these fte was almost like the ejector didnt even attempt to grab the case. I had another thought last night. Legacy slides will have either an internal extractor or a short external extractor. Fourth, no one takes Taurus seriously. Has anyone else had issues? After watching a friend get killed by a Remington 700 by another friend and the ensuing fallout 31 years ago I decided that I didnt care if the P320 was fixed, it was getting sold. (chamber area) and checked for spent shell retention. The modular SIG P320 is among the most widely-owned handguns on the planet. I know I'm reviving an old thread here as well. Any Armorer . And the fact they used real models, and big ones, gives the ships a real sense of heft, mass, movement and solidity that the garbage CGI ships of the new movies just cannot remotely compete with. Some of the plaintiffs claim the pistol can fire without the trigger even being touched. Thank yall for your input. The new suit is the latest in a string of similar cases that alleges Sig Sauers popular P320 striker-fired pistol has a design flaw that has led to unintentional discharges of the weapon, often while still holstered. But just the same- a gun going off from momentum? Sig makes a damn fine weapon and theres nothing wrong with it. Although if you have the RA, you may also have a pre-paid shipping label. and it did not have issues without the extractor. I dont know nothing about Sigs, I do know any gunm that goes off when I lay it on a table gets sold with a warning and I never touch that brand or model again. Thats why NY demanded the NY Trigger be installed on Glocks before theyd buy them. The claim basically boils down to the notion that in normal, unconcerning operation, a foreign body entered the striker body. But this time, the sound bites used were different. Completely cleaned and lubed? Why you and I are arguing over a gun that neither owns or will own, . That show with no Shatner-Kirk and only a Nimoy-Spock wouldnt have gotten past the first season. Would you? NHPR is nonprofit and independent. Includes: -Extractor-Extractor Pin-Extractor spring Do you have an FFL closer to you than the FedEx hub? A few weeks ago, my P320Compact (serial number 58B00xxxx) failed to extract a shell. So I see this asa manufacturer issue not an ammo issue. Fired case is extracted about a quarter of an inch. I purchased my first and so far only Sig back in December of 2019, A P320 Carry certified pre-owned. I would just order a new extractor and related components and try the gun again. Todd started as a news correspondent with NHPR in 2009. Trying to categorically say Brand X is better than Brand Y! It has worked flawlessly. The pictures on the internet were enough to scare the shit out of you especially his wound in the thigh. I dunno if its a case of lowest bidders blues or what. The new Tauruses have a good rep, far better then the P320 or P365. I could care but that came at the expense of reliability and safety. Wheee!!. 3. P365/P365XL Striker Kit. These lawsuits arent about Sig making a defective weapon, theyre about lawyers building a nationwide consensus in civil trial that makes it easier (and more lucrative) to soak gunmakers. Sig P320 Extractor Problems, www.SigForum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/150601935/m/7630095024?r=7630095024#7630095024. Both of my P320 carry's developed extraction issues. So the tally goes against the surrounding area, not against the gun free zone. The second, longer version of the ABC story again included comments from Joshua Harrison, the consultant ABC hired to independently assess the P320. Im more of a DS9 guy. Same results. Seems a bit apologetic to me. Heres the version of the report that ran later that night, during ABCs Nightline program . Mechanical engagement of sear to striker not deep enough (wanted lighter, smoother trigger pull without giving it any hand workmanship required with the deep notch much safer classic systems made since 1900) Result another big fail. Fundamentally, the bits that the ambulance chaser claims are flawed function exactly the same way as a S&W M&P. I chalk it up to a piece of brass that was probably already significantly compromised. Theyve now come to the attention of the legacy media. It sure wasnt her fault though, because she was flooring the. As to prong 2, there is a considerable difference between the mechanism of a 320 and, say, ones basic Glock, in that a 320 is fully cocked, whereas a Glock is half-cocked until the trigger is fully depressed, with the striker remaining locked by the striker safety plunger until that is released by a cam on the trigger bar. Companies stay silent The Moron engineer who decided to put that on the Glock should have been hung by his dirty balls. My friend's 320 rx pictures below, out of battery firing, barrel appears to be short chambered, not enough case supportsee pix belowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). For the sake of comparison, the P365 has an overall length of 5.8-inches and height of 4.3inches, and the P365 XL has an overall length of 6.6-inches and a height of 4.8-inches. There is even someone on youtube who complained about it with two separate pistols. All the factory replacement corrosion-resistant parts to replace your P320 .45 AUTO extractor assembly. Both are listed by Sig Sauer as micro-compacts, but the size difference is there, and it does make a difference. On 6/21/2017 at 8:36 AM, IDescribe said: Sig P320 X5 Case Separation and Extractor Loss. SIG doesnt so you get killed by a punk with a Hi Point. Still waiting. Not too long after they sold a pistol to the public and United States military thats not even DROP SAFE?!? Instead we see a Sig that is ran by Mr. Cohen of Kimber fame have repeated quality and product development failures. Seems kind of like a Sig apologist article. I have no idea. All chasing that pot of gold at the end of litigation.. Not that big of a stretch when considering the lawyers beating the bushs for clients to add to the lawsuits, and the fact many of them will lose their jobs if its proven to NOT be the gun, but instead negligence on their part. Then either the gun somehow managed to magically clear both the broken tab and foreign body to continue to operate. I was running 165 Xtreme RN plated with 2.7 of VV310. When I received the gun, it appeared as if it was unfired, with wear apparent on the barrel or other corresponding areas to indicate the gun was even used. Thats SIGs term for a recall. The networks report didnt mention lawsuits filed by LEOs (or anyone else) against other gun makers claiming similar alleged design defects. to docile, too subtle, to contextual. There was no holster involved. The round went downrange so nobody was hurt. The fact that Shatner was doing Wrath of Kahn meet and greets at 90 years old kind of soured me. Pasted as rich text. Only problem is with the 9F Kit. As they should. Ever since the internet went mainstream I have read about the Sigs decline. On the other hand, would we also condemn him for violating Rule 2 if the bullet had travelled through his outside wall, entered the adjacent house, and killed a resident thereof, or would we maybe, just maybe, place some blame on the manufacturer who created the pistol? Occasional kabooms are a predictable outcome. New Sig factory extractor parts are on their way to replace what I have in the gun. Look at the photos g macposted of the barrel and factory ammo shot in that barrel. But it hardly indicts the P320 as a badly engineered weapon or that its worse than another brand. selling the 365 with strikers breaking? Depending on who you talk to you will get many different answers. If you aggressively load a too-long mag into the pistol that doesn't hard-stop on the grip frame, this WILL happen. Also some sport pistol at 132. Sig Sauer P320 45 AUTO EXTRACTOR ASSEMBLY - CORROSION RESISTANT. Give today. UPDATE:We were just made aware of YouTuber BoomStick Tactical who produced this video the day before our post published. Interestingly the barrel looks different. Yes, its reliable, but no more so than most other major brands well known models. That wont last for long, the P320 (M17 AND M18) are already failing in the field. He would have been booted after the first time, but being a cop comes with some special privileges. Finger on the trigger and muzzle discipline are sometimes unheralded. I dont care about the upgrade that should never happen. That took a lot. I guess none got her the attention she wanted and a national coverage so she went in for the bang. That could happen easily. The problems associate with those pistols (and the P365) have long since been ironed out. On 320 based guns, make sure the ejector has not been bent up or otherwise damaged. Steel casing ammo much better off in polymer mags. Like many of our readers, weve been watching the slow drip, drip, drip of lawsuits accumulate over the past couple of years against SIG Sauer. Trying to gauge how widespread the problem is. 3. Ironic that the trendsetters of yesteryear are trying to tear down the innovator of today because its Not perfected yet! and the Design isnt worked out!. . A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. SIG brought us into their testing facility today and demonstrated that three upgraded P320s were all functional and fired properly. The problem with Sig is with their polymer pistols. NH food pantries expect rise in demand as SNAP benefits drop, Saint-Marc, tapped as federal magistrate judge, poised to make history in NH, NH AGs pursuit of hate group marks a turning point in officials response to extremism, Over 2 million more electric vehicles estimated in New England over next decade. Wow new finger grooves, crazy innovation. They didnt have to, but did. Really, that JJA ship looks like something the folks at PlaySkool built, its terrible. That a shirt tail or jacket cinch cord slips into a holster. The company didnt want to comment on any specific pending litigation for obvious reasons. Slide has cycled all of the way back and attempts to strip the next round from the magazine. Note that Harrisons comment about these claims possibly being the result of legal momentum were edited out of the longer Nightline version of the report. But I hope Sig fights it until the bitterest of ends. You have entered an incorrect email address! Face it, you paid far too much for a plastic gun. Got a bad batch of WW ammo or Its the expert who gets caught up in the routine and stops paying attention. In the latest lawsuit, plaintiffs allege that the newer-version of the P320 can also discharge when dropped or struck from certain angles. Or you would have to have enough slide play for the slide movement to physically disengage the sear and striker leg mating surfaces. Im reading about a moron who wraps a loaded firearm in a cloth and stuff it in a gym bag, and other dumb behavior that tells me the weapon isnt the problem but the user. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dea-agent-lee-paige-still-wont-go-away/. All of my kits run fantastic, never a hiccup. Bagnell told TTAG that he believes the problem with the striker-fired P320 is an inadequate sear/striker connection (he has images he says illustrate this on his website). Maybe. how do I get one for my P320? 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